The thin gauge stuff on leather and a sand bag is working okay. I finally finished this, added gems to the silver and patina.

   

Sizing is approximately relative.

Heavier copper, about 14 gauge, not so good. I think some of it is my forge overheats the copper and while that gives a cool affect its not right for work. Also the black pitch I am using is too hard for deep shaping, which isn't a surprise 'cause it from my engraving stuff. So I need to get some red German or northwest pitch in medium...<sigh>

It's about 2 by 3...

Gonna have to put this up for a bit anyway to carve eggs. The big sale is coming and our Matsuka wants some carved wooden eggs.